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#1 Marina

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Posted 26 December 2003 - 07:56 AM

Всем привет! Для каждого нового иммигранта наступает такой момент, когда нужно найти работу. Скорее всего, первую работу не удается найти по специальности, во всяком случае, для бухгалтера, экономиста, вследствие не признания советских дипломов и некоторых отличий в стандартах бухучета. Буду всем признательна за советы и высказывания по данному поводу.

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Posted 26 December 2003 - 09:28 AM

Всем привет! Для каждого нового иммигранта наступает такой момент, когда нужно найти работу. Скорее всего, первую работу не удается найти по специальности, во всяком случае, для бухгалтера, экономиста, вследствие не признания советских дипломов и некоторых отличий в стандартах бухучета. Буду всем признательна за советы и высказывания по данному поводу.


Marina,

I think your question requires some preliminary answers from you.

For example - are you alone in a sense is there a person who will support
you financially ? If you have financial support, you can take some classes
to re-establish your Soviet times occupation/profession.

If not, it's quite a different matter.

And, how good your English is ?

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Posted 27 December 2003 - 01:46 AM

... вследствие не признания советских дипломов и некоторых отличий в стандартах бухучета.

С чего ты взяла, что их не признают? Просто ты сама без знания этих самых отличий шагу не ступишь по документации американского "предприятия".
На основании советского диплом, немного подучившись, ты очень быстро получишь американский диплом, например СРА (Certified Public Accountant) и будешь НАРАСХВАТ!

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Posted 27 December 2003 - 02:51 AM

... вследствие не признания советских дипломов и некоторых отличий в стандартах бухучета.

С чего ты взяла, что их не признают? Просто ты сама без знания этих самых отличий шагу не ступишь по документации американского "предприятия".
На основании советского диплом, немного подучившись, ты очень быстро получишь американский диплом, например СРА (Certified Public Accountant) и будешь НАРАСХВАТ!


I think Vadim is correct. Two examples:

1) my friend's wife, who has economist diploma from the former USSR,
is working in procurement for an electronic company;

2) my other friend's wife is working as CPA, even though she obtained
her degree not in the US.

But you will need to take some class, and/or pass exams, etc.

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Posted 27 December 2003 - 03:01 AM

1) my friend's wife, who has economist diploma from the former USSR, is working in procurement for an electronic company;

2) my other friend's wife is working as CPA, even though she obtained her degree not in the US.

Any chance those ladies write about their experience here in our forum? Could you ask them? I guess THAT would be of the greatest interest for Marina and other job seekers.

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Posted 27 December 2003 - 03:30 AM

1) my friend's wife, who has economist diploma from the former USSR, is working in procurement for an electronic company;

2) my other friend's wife is working as CPA, even though she obtained her degree not in the US.

Any chance those ladies write about their experience here in our forum? Could you ask them? I guess THAT would be of the greatest interest for Marina and other job seekers.


I am not sure the ladies would be interested, but, since I know both
families pretty well, I'll tell some more details.

Regarding case 1) - I've told the final truth, but, of course, it wasn't
that straightforward.

The friend of mine is a HW/SW engineer; they came to the US in ~1989.
It wasn't easy for them; in fact, the friend's wife at her first job (if I
remember correctly) was packing frozen meat for an Italian-owned
store in NJ (or NY ?) - she thinks they were MAPHIOZI, but she says they
treated her well.

In the end her husband managed to get development (opposed to
maintenance) job, and he brought his wife to the company he was working
for. He has left the company long since, but his wife is still there.

Alas, his wife's English could be better, but I think it is good enough
for similar to what she has now jobs.

The 2) case seems to be a smoother one - in the .com era the wife
was even taking C++ class, but, in the end, she upgraded her CPA
skills and, as far as I know, found her job independently of her husband,
the latter is in high tech. This couple lives in Oregon, near Portland;
the lady under consideration started working a couple of years ago - the
Green card was needed, she was on H4, her husband - on H1B.

The important in both cases similarity is that the wives could afford not
having a job while their husbands were employed.

Another direction to look - in the Silicon Valley female QA engineers
start taking registered nurse classes - there is demand for the latter,
and the job appears to be relatively well payed for. Again, the question
is: "Who is going to pay your bills while you are getting new skills ?".

The would be registered nurse took some loans, and there is some
assistance from the state employment agency (the one that pays
unemployment benefits). I do not know the details, again, just a
direction. Of course, one should be ready for such a job in her/his soull.

I should better say: one's soul should be good enough for such kind of
job.

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Posted 27 December 2003 - 03:40 AM

I am not sure the ladies would be interested, but...

It's great to have big-heart folks like you! Thanks for the real-life examples, Sergei!
Ever thought of moonlighting as a RN?
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Posted 27 December 2003 - 04:09 AM

I am not sure the ladies would be interested, but...

It's great to have big-heart folks like you! Thanks for the real-life examples, Sergei!
Ever thought of moonlighting as a RN?
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I never meant my heart/soul is good enough to be a registered nurse.

On the other hand, I dated one for quite a time - just dated, no more than
that. She was (and I hope still is) a nice girl, and she had a pussy cat.

She once complained about her last boyfriend, because he dared to ask
whom she loved more - him or her pussycat. I couldn't imagine her
boyfriend was as stupid as that :-).

The registered nurse I was dating was not the QA I mentioned above.

Anyway, this reply of mine is off-topic :-).

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Posted 27 December 2003 - 04:23 AM

Anyway, this reply of mine is off-topic :-).

Хочешь, могу удалить?
У тебя вообще поразительная способность быстро "менять пластинку"
:wink:
А как ты относишься к поиску работы с помощью разных-всяких электронных "досок"? Марина хорошо разбирается в компах, подключена к интернету по DSL - может такого "натворить" (в плане рассылки)!!! Резюме с "ковер-леттером" мы ей с Шэрон составим типа пальчики оближешь...
:D

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Posted 27 December 2003 - 04:46 AM

Anyway, this reply of mine is off-topic :-).

Хочешь, могу удалить?
У тебя вообще поразительная способность быстро "менять пластинку"
:wink:
А как ты относишься к поиску работы с помощью разных-всяких электронных "досок"? Марина хорошо разбирается в компах, подключена к интернету по DSL - может такого "натворить" (в плане рассылки)!!! Резюме с "ковер-леттером" мы ей с Шэрон составим типа пальчики оближешь...
:D


I am looking for a job reading job postings. Generally speaking, I think
it's a good way.

My yet other friend's wife in NJ (she used to be a programmer, now she's
business analyst) found her last jobs as replies to her resume posted
on job boards.

On the other hand, all but one jobs I had in the US were obtained
through recruiters, though I did have interviews as a result of my
direct applications.

Seriously speaking, I am not sure how good or bad resume posting is
for obtaining CPA-like jobs - it's not my world.

I do believe that reading Internet jobs postings is useful and productive;
for that matter a good resume is always an asset.

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Posted 27 December 2003 - 05:03 AM

A number of weeks ago the following words crossed my mind: raging unemployment and other unlimited possibilities. Normally, Vadim doesn't like such observations :-).

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Posted 27 December 2003 - 06:43 AM

A number of weeks ago the following words crossed my mind: raging unemployment and other unlimited possibilities.
Normally, Vadim doesn't like such observations :-).

Why? It's a crazy word combination that induces thinking...Reader's Digest type of thinking. Or Mad Magazine...
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Posted 23 January 2004 - 12:20 PM

Privet, u mena est odin vopros: VY ne podkazete kak najti robotu v USA buduchi na teretorii Polshy, eta robota mne nuzna na vrema letnih kanikul, u mena budut vse dokumenty legalnye dla roboty. Spasibo za sovet.

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Posted 24 January 2004 - 04:10 AM

Лучше бы открыл отдельную тему "Работа для студента" или еще как, ведь тема интересна и для других. А может кто и свои предложения сделает. Попробуй по программе Work & Travel. В любом поисковике набери и кучу ссылок получишь. Или едешь в курортное место и уж там точно что то найдешь. А почему именно в США, не в Канаду. Ведь если в будущее смотреть, то в Канаде подают документы о гражданстве через три года, а в США - только через пять.
Не стой у края ........

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Posted 24 January 2004 - 04:29 AM

Privet, u mena est odin vopros: VY ne podkazete kak najti robotu v USA buduchi na teretorii Polshy, eta robota mne nuzna na vrema letnih kanikul, u mena budut vse dokumenty legalnye dla roboty. Spasibo za sovet.

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